beatles on the ipad or ipod or something. apple hammers out a deal for i tunes, making the announcement official on their home page. martha: wonder what it costs, 99 cents or 1.9 or # .99. bill: 99 cents, right? if you think about it, the beatles, how many songs they had, it could cost awe fortune. martha: we'll have to do that, thank you for being here, everybody. bill: see you tomorrow. martha: bye bye! jon: a fox news alert and we are awaiting now a news conference regarding a bomb threat at ohio state university. the fbi receiving that threat in an e-mail just this morning. police evacuating four buildings on the campus, including the main library. the university is telling all students and faculty to stay out of the area. it's sending 32,000 text messages to spread the warning. the news conference on that threat, expected to begin any moment now. harris faulkner is

monitoring it for us at the breaking news desk, she will bring us the news as it comes in. jenna: we have another fox news alert on a happier note this time, prince william and indicate middleton, preparing to speak publicly for the first time since announcing their engagement today, the two sitting down for an interview this afternoon but they will be posing for pictures. it's going to happen this hour, it's going to happen in london and we're waiting for our first glimpse of the couple and much talked about ring. that's always a big part, right jon? jenna: i guess he had to ask her dad for permission. wow! jenna: that's right. buckingham palace making the big announcement today that the prince popped the question to his long-time girlfriend while vacationing in kenya. we have a live report from london and later we'll talk to paul borell, once princess diana's butler, his sons used to play with william and harry. we have much more ahead on that memorial engagement.

jon: lots to cover today. good morning, i'm jon scon. jenna: hi everybody we're glad you're with us, we're in the fox news room and "happening now", we're awaiting a decision in the ethicses trial of a very powerful democrat in congress. jon: right now the house panel is deliberating the fate of charlie rangel behind closed doors, the veteran new york congressman faces 13 counts of financial and fundraising misconduct. steve centanni, live for us in washington. what happens next, steve? >> reporter: we don't know exactly when the panel is going to reach their conclusion but they are deliberating behind closed doors on capitol hill as we speak. they began deliberations yesterday afternoon and continue it today. charlie rangel himself arrived at his office this morning and made no comment object the proceedings. the panel, four democrats and four republicans, will now determine whether rangel is guilty of any of the charges against him. rangel yesterday, of course, declined to participate in the trial, after the panel turned down his request for a delay because he can't

afford an attorney. >> what you are basically telling me, that the political calendar will not allow you enough counsel, enough time, to allow me to get a lawyer at this crucial point in my life, 50 years of public service is on the line. i truly believe that i'm not being treated fairly, and that history will show that notwithstanding the political calendar i'm entitled to a lawyer during this proceeding. >> reporter: he walked out and didn't take part this & the proceeding. he said he spent $2 million so far on legal bills to defend the ethics charges. jon: he has 13 charges lodged against him, right? >> reporter: right. jon: if he's found guilty, what happens? >> reporter: then the full committee would convene and decide what to do. they could simply issue a critical report and end the case right then and there and not go any further or

they could recommend the full house vote on a measure to reprimand or censure, but in any case if he's found guilty on any one of these 13 charges, then the full ethics panel takes over. rangel, of course, accused of violating house reporting requirements, using rent controlled real estate in harlem for his office and soliciting donations for a private foundation using public resources. the charge had already forced him to resign his post as chairman of the powerful ways and means committee jon. jon: i haven't read from anybody who thinks he did his case any good by walking out yesterday. >> probably not. it's good to be receipted and then to make your case before the panel, you would think. jon: steve crentyie in washington, thanks. jenna: now in d.c., the war on pork, pork barrel spending and you have senate minority leader mitch mcconnell yielding to tea party pressure, going behind to support earmarks, special funding requests lawmakers

slip into legislation for home state projects. although they can be controversial earmarks account for less than 1 percent of the federal budget. many republicans have signed on to a ban. let's ask our next guest if he's going to as well, senator saxby chambliss, republican from georgia. senator, are you going to sign on in favor of moratorium on earmark? >> jenna, i consistently voted number one for earmark reform, secondly to eliminate earmarks and i will do so again today. it's going to be an overwhelming vote in our conference. the problem is i don't think the democrats will ever agree to it but we'll just have to wait and see. jenna: lots of viewers have this question about this whole process. if there is a moratorium on earmarks, then what happens to the money? >> well, the money is -- has to be spent through the appropriations process, irrespective of whether you have earmarks or not. that process starts with the budget. and when the budget comes forward from the white house to the hill, then we have an

opportunity during the budget process to express our agreement or disagreement with the specific pending items that are in that budget, and then we have the authorizing process with some of our committees, for example, last year, on the armed -- i served on the armed services committee. we always have an authorization bill where we deal with pay raises, purchase of weapons systems and construction on military bases, those sort of issues. those aren't the spending issues that people are upset about. what people are upset about is they are foolish expenditures that have taken place and how flawed the process has become. so i think you're going to see a change in the way the budget process is approached, the way the authorizing process is approached and certainly the way the appropriations process is handled as a result of this really sick feeling around the country

about the abuse of the earmarks process. jenna: we mentioned in the introduction to you that it's less than 1 percent of total government spending. will this actually help? will this actually start a new habit to change the way we spend in d.c., or do you think this is mostly symbolic? >> well, you know jenna, only in d.c. is a million dollars a little money. this earmark amounts to about $16 billion, and that is significant in and of itself. but the fact is that we've got to reduce total spending by trillions over the next ten years, not billions. so earmark reform is a good step in the right direction, but we've got an awful lot of other federal spending that is going to have to be addressed, and there are going to be some folks across the country who are going to say whoa, wait a minute, that's my program, but what we as responsible legislators are going to have to do is to look at all federal spending, inside and outside the earmarking

process, and we're going to have to make some big, tough decisions if we -- decisions. if we don't, our children and grandchildren are simply going to be left with a country that's not as strong as viable as the country that we inherited and we just can't afford to do that. so there are going to be tough decisions. jenna: i'm going to have to wrap up. in 30 seconds, where would you start? when you have to make the other tough decisions on spending, where would you like the government to start? >> well, discretionary spending, basically congress determines one third of the budget. we're going to have to look at each of those federal agencies and i can't tell where you we're going to reduce spending there but also we've got to look at the mandatory side, we've got to make real reforms in medicare and social security if we're ever going to get this debt under control. jenna: senator chambliss, great to have you with us today, we appreciate your insight. thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: right now, we are keeping an eye on london. that is where we're waiting

to see the first pictures of prince william and indicate middleton, the newly engaged couple, about to pose for the first time since the big announcement today. reaction to their engagement is pouring in. greg palkot, it's a happy city today, i suppose, huh greg? >> reporter: it is happy. the announcement came a couple of hours ago, the an gaugement of prince william to kate middleton. reaction has been swift and positive. the house behind me, buckingham palace, the queen was very pleased, saying she is absolutely delighted. she of course had to give the okay to the deal and we understand she did. the father of prince willual, he is the first in line to that throne, said he was thrilled and i love this quote, they have been practicing long enough, he said. in fact, they have been together about eight years. william popping the question to kate on a vacation to kenya last month. we understand, she said yes, and you can see throngs of international media around

me. it is amazing that word has not leaked out over the past couple of weeks. the wedding will be next year in spring or summer, at a venue yet to be announced here in london. a lot of speculation about that. speculation about the wedding dress, where they're going on the honeymoon. we do understand they will be living together after the wedding in north wales, that is near the royal air force base. william is a search and rescue helicopter pilot, but being second in line to the throne, jon, you got to believe that their eyes might be on the prize of the palace behind you. back to you. jon: greg palkot live in london, we are going to be watching that very closely. thanks greg. coming up later this hour, we are speak with paul borell, he was princess diana's butler, his children used to play with william and harry when they were kids. he'll give us an insider take on this announcement today. jenna: and in a kidnapping,

one member of a family missing in ohio and we're hearng strange details about the suspect. plus, why relatives say they're still holding out hope. the other family -- hope the other family members will be found alive. >> your kids, your mom, me, the whole family, we're all looking for you, to be with you in thought, until we find you.

jon: right now we're waiting for court action in the strange case of a missing family in ohio. a bond hearing set for matthew hoffman this afternoon, he's charged with kidnapping, this after police found a 13-year-old girl bound and gagged in his basement over the weekend. no word yet on how hoffman knew the girl and her family but the suggests he was watching them. the girl's mother, brother and family friend are missing after they disappeared near leweek ago. investigators say the inside of their home was splattered with blood with you relatives still hold out hope they'll be found alive.

rick leventhal is live in mount vernon, ohio. some new information, we're hearing, rick, about the suspect, huh? >> reporter: yeah, jon, that matthew hoffman, the prime suspect, did know this family or made himself known to them, somehow. the sheriff not saying exactly how. but also that he may have been watching them. we also learned today jon for the first time that hoffman was actually spoken to by police last thursday night. police were called to nearby kennon college, where the missing mother's pickup truck was found and when they went to kennon college they found matthew hoffman sitting in his car near a bike trail right across the street from this location. she spoke -- they spoke to him then but didn't go to his house until sunday morningings that's when they found the 13-year-old girl pound -- bound and gagged in the basement. he spent several years in colorado before being released on parole and moving here in 2007 jon. op jon what's the latest on the actual investigation? >> you may see some vehicles

behind me. there is about 30 or more locals at this park, foundation park, which is right next to hoffman's home, they are helping police search the grounds of this park, the divers have also been searching the waters of this park, police divers have and have actually pulled a couple of vehicles out of the water but don't believe the vehicles are connected to the case. still, they're looking for these three missing people, tina herman, the girl's mother, she's 32, the girl's 11-year-old brother, also missing, and a friend, stephanie spring, 42-year-old woman. authorities not holding out much hope they'll be found alive at this point. >> we still would like to remain in a hopeful attitude but we have to be realistic, the amount of blood, the fact that sarah was found with the suspect, no one else was found there, and we have -- no one has apparently seen or heard anything out of anyone since

then. >> reporter: we are beep ago name there but -- we're not revealing the name of that little girl who was found but again they're searching for the three other people, and matthew hoffman will be in court this after that but not actually in court. he's going to appear by video because of the high profile nature of this case. jon: so sad and so strange. rick leventhal in mount vernon, ohio, thanks. >> sure. jenna: back to politics now, nancy pelosi is about to lose her title as house speaker but is she a shoe-in to be the next minority leader? congressman keith shuler is challenging pelosi for the spot but does he have the support to topple her? we'll talk about that ahead. so much going on today, so much news and harris is watching our live chat, a lot of buzz on that chat today harris? >> reporter: there is, and apparently earmarks, it's a flashpoint with our live chatters. by the way, everyone can quet get involved, go to foxnews.com, click on jon and jenna's beautiful

picture, that will take you to the "happening now" page, you can look for the section, about midway down our page and get in on the live chat. daniel writes earmarks? call them what they are. wasteful excess government spending. very, very strong opinions about earmarks. but also, some strong opinions about whether or not congress will actually do anything about earmarks. get in on the conversation. america is asking. for any interview thaw might see, you can always ask, and you know jenna and jon, they usually do, they don't just wait for a special occasion like a town hall or hot seat guest, they keep the questions coming and everybody loves that. america's asking. you stay with us.

>> reporter: welcome back to "happening now", i'm harris faulkner. want to get you caught up on the situation at ohio university, one of the nation's largest college campuses. it was put on alert after an e-mail was e-mailed into fbi headquarters, four buildings, including the main public library on campus, we're just getting word that security officials at ohio state university say that so far, their search for any kind of bomb devices on campus has turned up nothing. it led to a mass evacuation of four buildings, including that public library, during the 8:00 hour, as classes were just beginning for the day. that is all faculty, students, staff, and visitors on campus had to escape from those buildings while they searched them with bomb sniffing dogs. that's going to continue. the university director of public safety says look, we're going to keep looking for whatever those threats may have pointed out, hopefully it will turn out to be nothing but they're going to keep at it, meanwhile, classes and

activities on the rest of campus now are going to go on as scheduled. that's the hype. so far nothing turns up, the class is going to resume the schedule but the four buildings will remain closed until at least 5:00 today eastern time, possibly longer, depending upon whether or not they find anything. that's the latest from the situation at ohio state university. let's get you back to jon and jenna. jenna: there it is, time for our power play of the day. today we have the courtesy of north carolina congressman keith shule -- heath shuler, he wants to call the plays again, running against nancy pelosi for the job of minority leader in the next congress. some are calling his bid a real longshot here, others say he's the right man for the job. let's talk to chris stierwalt, fox news digital politics editor. so chris, tell us more about heath, does he have a shot here? >> well, it depends on what the goal is. that's the most important thing is to figure out --

any time a politician does anything you have to first assess what his target is and here i would bet that heath shuler's goal isn't as much to try to take over the democratic caucus but as to show the voters in his very conservative western north carolina district, a very republican leaning district, that he is standing in opposition to speaker pelosi. jenna: well, some say that speaker pelosi would never even say that she was up for the minority leader position unless she had the votes. she's known as a real vote counter, knowing how to get things passed but also get herself elected. so any indication on how she feels about this challenge? >> reporter: i would say she feels -- if i had to guess i would say that she finds this a challenge that perhaps congressman shuler feels he needs to engage in ow not one that likely worries her too much. remember this, when congress comes back into session, when the new congress, 112th congress meets in january

it's going to be a lot more liberal, it's going to be more like san francisco than sals bury, north carolina where heath shuler hails from, so this is because so many of the moderates got beat and because so many of the so-called blue dogs lost their seats, half the blue dogs lost and half stayed, so pelosi, barring a cataclysm for her is going to come in and minority leader. jenna: what are you saying about san francisco? >> not that there's anything wrong with that! i think it's cool. jenna: duly noted. >> everybody ought to have representation that they want. jenna: there you go! point well taken about san francisco, versus north carolina. just a final point here about the president, the president has been relatively hands off when it comes to issues in congress, saying i'm going to do my thing, congress, you do your thing, but will he weigh in about who he'd like to see as minority leader of the house? >> i'd say it's too late for all that. once pelosi said that she wanted it, there is no one

who could say no. remember this, she carried this -- she carried enough water for barack obama to fill the pacific ocean. she did everything that he needed her to do and got stuff done that harry reid couldn't do, and he's in no position to tell her anything other than congratulations, madam minority leader. jenna: all right, well, we'll see what happens. like it -- when the vote comes down. chris, yesterday you were talking about baptist churches, now he's talking about san francisco sis cans -- san francisco siz cans. check out our blog, log on to foxnews.com/aehq for politics 24/7. there's a great iphone app as well, the power play app you should check out. jon: a is a rift developing between the u.s. military and afghan president hal id karzai? have you heard about this, karzai criticizing the way the war is fought in his

country. what the top commander in afghanistan had to say about that. and this lovely lady in the black hat on your screen could one day be queen of england. who is kate middleton and what can we expect when she and prince willan tie the knot? we are waiting for pictures of the prince and his future bride. that's coming up. who's your someone? campbell's healthy request can help. low cholesterol, zero grams trans fat, and a healthy level of sodium. it's amazing what soup can do. or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.

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jenna: a fox news alert for you, want to take you out to pasadena, california. early commute time, what we're looking at on our screen is a commuter bus that simply ran off the road according to reports we're receiving, this shot coming to us by way of kttv, our affiliate out there. the bus hit a car, apparently drove off the road. the good news that we can report at this time is, so far, we have no reports of any serious injuries, but more information as we get it. jon: and more breaking news, a u.s. team investigating doping charges against champion cyclist lance armstrong, it is shifting it focus now to france. a team of americans including representatives from the usda and the u.s. anti-doping agency will meet with french authorities later this week. a number of urine samples taken from 1999 when armstrong won the tour are stored in france. armstrong was accused of doping by former teammate floyd landis

who confessed to using illegal substances himself. armstrong deny those charges. jenna: also just a few minutes ago the parents of the bride, the bride being kate middleton, of course, just now speaking out about the engagement of their daughter, kate, to prince william. take a listen. >> i'd just like to say that carol and i are absolutely delighted by today's announcement and thrilled at the prospect of a wedding sometime next year. as you know, katherine and prince william have been going out together for quite a number of years which is great for us because we've gotten to know william really well. we all think he's wonderful, and we're extremely fond of him. they make a lovely couple, they're great fun to be with, and we've had a lot of laughs together. we wish them every happiness for the future. thank you. jenna: well, we congratulate them, too, their daughter is now going to be a princess.

brand new information coming from sky news right now that the ring that kate middleton received from william is, in fact, his mother's ring. that engagement ring. now, we hope to get a look at the ring and the now-engaged couple about half an hour from now. we expect brand new pictures to come forward, and we'll bring them to you live when we get them. jon: well, there's tension building now between afghan president hamid karzai and u.s. commanders in the afghanistan, especially general david petraeus. karzai recently criticized the american military strategy there calling for a lower u.s. military profile in his country and an end to raids by special operations forces. general petraeus saying those comments could undermine the war effort. let's talk about it now with general richard meyers, former chairman of the joint chief of staff. general meyers, why would hamid karzai make these comments? >> well, i think any president has many constituencies, and who knows who he's aiming that one

at. i think in their private discussion between the president, president karzai, general petraeus, ambassador eikenberry, that there are plenty of other venues to talk about this. so it's a little unclear why president karzai's coming out at this point, but as i said, there are other constituents that he has to, has to speak to. jon: well, you know, the taliban has been trying to destabilize his government, overthrow him if possible. isn't the enemy of his enemy his friend? this. >> yeah, you would think so. [laughter] and, of course, what they're complaining about are these so-called night raids which is a key piece of what nato and u.s. forces are trying to do inside afghanistan. and i can tell you from my experience that the planning for these raid will be exquisite, the intelligence is getting better and better every day, it's so much better than even when i was in office, and they work very hard to minimize any civilian casualty.

so while it's never pleasant to have a foreign force in your country, an armed force, in this case it's really important and central to keeping president karzai and his government in power. jon: we just had some footage there of general petraeus meeting with hamid karzai. if you're general petraeus and you're trying, you know, you're trying to prosecute this war, trying to get this country stabilized, pull it out of the eighth century and bring it into, you know, the modern era, what does that do to you to hear this kind of criticism from the president of that country? >> well, i think it undermines your efforts to some extent but, again, i would say that it's the private conversations that go on between general petraeus and president karzai that are important. not some of the public utterings. and everything that i hear is that, you know, there's great afghan support for what general petraeus is doing. in fact, a lot of president

karzai's cabinet official and spokesmen came out later and said, wait a minute, what the president really means to say is not exactly the way that it came out. and by the way, there are afghan forces that are a part of all these, all these raids, so this is not something the u.s. is doing unilaterally. jon: yeah. and even the head of nato said what we want is for afghan forces to take over more of the security in that country. i mean, that's everyone's goal, right? >> that is. that' everyone's goal. and that in the next year and a half to two year they plan on transferring security to afghan forces. jon: well, it would be nice to have president karzai, i guess, exhorting his own military leader to get that program advanced. >> i think it's best given the complexity of that cig in afghanistan that -- situation in the afghanistan rhetoric from anybody needs to be very carefully measured, and they've got to be very careful in the words they use and that the really hard words need to be used in the private sessions if they have issues with each other

or the multitude of player that are involved in that conflict. jon: general richard myers is former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. good to have you with us. >> thanks, jon. jenna: a really interesting story ahead, a dramatic new campaign aimed at reducing distracted driving, telling the tales of those that have lost their liveses in the hope it will make drivers keep their eyes on the road. brand new information straight ahead. also, great britain getting ready for a royal wedding. prince william popping the question to long-time girlfriend kate middleton. what lies ahead for the lucky couple as we wait for their very first appearance since the palace announced their engagement. we'll bring that to you in moments. ♪

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issues coming into play that we want to tell you about including this issue of debt. and there's fear of future bailouts for some sovereign nation oversea like ireland and portugal. you probably remember all those story we did on greece and the bailout needed for greece because of their financial situation, but there's also something else going on. we're seeing some signs of inflation as well. remember, all the bailout and extra money that's in the system from all different nation around the world, there was fear that was going to cause inflation down the line, and that would impede the recovery. so that's also coming into play. a lot going on in these markets, very important for us back at home. steven moore's going to be with us at the top of the hour to talk more about this. well, also another story today, sometimes numbers alone really can tell the story. now the department of transportation is is launching a video campaign showing the face of people killed in accidents by distracted drivers. that was the royal couple, they're now part of the campaign. anyway, this campaign is hoping

to make other driver think twice before talking or texting behind the wheel. it's a big problem, and there's just an example of one of the accidents. laura ingle's been covering the story, and laura, you look at that picture, wow. >> reporter: it's really very sobering, a new online video, jenna, of this story called faces of distracted driving did launch today with three sobering videos. many say nothing makes the point like a real-life story which is what transportation officials hope will do the trick here. let's take a look at ashley johnson. she was a 16-year-old who lost her life while retreing a text -- retrieving a text behind the wheel of her car. chef killed when she lost control of her vehicle, she crossed the center line and hit a pickup truck. her father amos said he had many talks with his daughters about the dangers of using her cell phone while driving and didn't think she would do it. >> i see a lot of adults on phones, you know? they, these kids see their

parents using cell phones, and they think it's okay, and it's not okay. you cannot text and drive at the same time. ashley is evident of that, that you cannot do both. >> reporter: 40% of teenager say they have been in a car when the driver used a cell phone in a way that put themself or others in the danger. one in four of american teen say they have texted while driving, behavior transportation officials say has to stop. >> we know that younger people think that they're invincible, that they, you know, can do these things and nothing will happen, but when you see the faces of distracted driving and you hear the heartbreaking stories of those people telling their stories, you know that this is a serious problem in america. >> reporter: secretary ray lahood is is confident fatalities can be drastically reduced as awareness rises, much like the anti-drunk driving campaigns and the seat belt campaigns have done so well in

the past. jenna: amazing stories there, maybe just today by showing some of that, laura, we leave the phobe in the backseat. >> reporter: hope so. thank you. jenna: laura, thank you. jon: big news about prince william and kate middleton comes as no surprise to those close to the royal family. paul burr rell was princess diana's butler, his sons were playmates with princes william and harry when they were young boys. that's paul there in that picture with diana. paul joins us live. this royal engagement no surprise to you, huh? >> no, it's no surprise to me. and i did think that it would happen over christmas, but i think william's taken the initiative and had a little spoiler there. jon: we just got word from the palace that he has given to kate middleton, the woman you see here in the center of the screen, he has given kate middleton his mother's engagement ring. everybody remembers princess diana when she received that ring, and apparently that is the one that kate is wearing now.

>> really? wow. that's, that's something. that really is something. what a statement. jon: that's news to you? >> it is news to me, yes, it is. i didn't think that it -- i didn't think that would happen. i mean, that's, that's a mighty symbol for william to give his mother's engagement ring to kate. he must love her deeply. jon: we just got that confirmed through the associated press, and i imagine that's quite a step for his father, too, i mean, his father would have had to approve such a move, right? >> well, absolutely. his father would have been consulted. but diana's e tate was left to -- estate was left to william and harry, and can that's the ring, of course, that the children remember growing up which princess diana always wore. it's a symbol of her life. so it is a very strong symbol to give kate that ring which, in many ways, epitomizes diana.

jon: you know were better than anybody the pressures of this kind of lifestyle. i mean, diana complained about it, obviously. is kate middleton better prepared than diana was? this. >> yes, i think so. she's had time to become prepared to this. diana didn't have the time. chef pushed into the deep end very soon and told to swim, and kate's had the time to be introduced to the royal family. more importantly, to the household. you remember there are 200 member of staff at buckingham palace and an entire household which surrounds the queen and prince phillip. so she's had to get used to all those faces, and that's a very important key to her future survival within buckingham palace. jon: what about the queen? obviously, you've got to have a good relationship with the queen, do you know anything about their relationship? >> yes, you have, and i've heard that the queen like kate very much. she's been embraced by the royal family. she's a very intelligent, very

courteous and respectful young lady, and you have to be because your future mother-in-law is the queen of england and the head of our church and head of state all rolled into one. but remember, the queen a very good, kind christian lady, and she will welcome kate with open arm. jon: so many of us remember the wedding of princess diana to prince charles. it was an extravagant affair, cost millions of pounds and in these day of tight budgets, would you expect to see that same kind of wedding? >> be no, i wouldn't. i don't think we're going to see such an exaggeration, such a huge pomp and pageantry. he is the future king of england and rightfully he should marry in westminster abbey, but i think the royal family are very conscious about expendture in these hard economic times, and i

wonder whether or not they will get married at st. george's chapel in wins sor which is really the royal family's family church. jenna: paul, i'm going to jump in because i have to ask this question. we just saw princess diana's dress, so what do you think kate' going to wear, what do you think the english people expect from their new princess? >> elegance. elegance, sophistication, simple, straight lines. princess diana was married in the romantic '80s. it was frills and lace -- [laughter] and volumes of taffeta. but not this time around. in fact, princess diana did say to me once if she ever got married again, it would be straight and simple. i expect something elegant from kate. i think she will wear a tiara which the queen will give to her to wear on her wedding day, but -- and she will wear a full veil as befitting a royal bride, but it will be elegant and

simple. jenna: paul did a pretty good job with that question. jon: he sure did. i was over at windsor when prince charles married camilla, so that could be the sight of -- jenna: interesting. jon: -- of his son's wedding. we'll be talking to paul some more. jenna: we're going to be seeing some comments coming from that happy couple any moment. in the meantime, kind of a business story for you. apple and the fab four finally getting together and working it out. it's a day where lots of people are coming together. the big announcement and what it means for music lovers worldwide. we have that story just ahead. ♪ got to be free. ♪ come together right now over me ♪ [ upbeat instrumental ] [ rattling ] [ gasps ] [ rattling ]

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jenna: all right, we have some breaking news, potentially, out of d.c. right now. we're awaiting a possible verdict in the ethics trial, this hearing of congressman charlie rangel. we do have the hearing, we're going to listen in as they're just resuming. >> by rule 7 of the committee on standards of official conduct which prohibit a dug of our deliberations publicly and require us to keep the confidentiality of our session, and i would ask member of the public to respect our obligations relative to the rules. before asking the ranking member if he would like to make a brief comment, i would just like to conclude by saying that none of the members of this committee are volunteers. this has been a difficult assignment, time-consuming, and

we have approached our duties diligently and that includes every member of this subcommittee. we have tried to act with fair ness led only by the facts and the law, and i believe that we have accomplished that mission, and i do give thank to each of the members who have worked so hard to do the right thing as well as the staff whos has, have worked extraordinarily hard and many, many hours to present this case to us. with that, i'd like to turn to the ranking member, mr. mccall, for any brief comment he may have. >> and thank you, madam chair. just let me say, first, that as you mentioned, no one asked for this assignment. sitting in judgment of a fellow member, a colleague is very difficult task, but i believe that you, madam chair, and all the member of this subcommittee have handled yourselves in a

very nonpartisan, a progressal manner and dignified manner which i hope will restore credibility to the house of representatives. as you mentioned, madam chair, we were able to reach consensus on12 of the 13 counts with count three being a split vote 4-4. when we look at count 13, it talks about reflecting credibility on the house and discussing dishonor. i'm hopeful as we move forward with this manner into the next phase that at the end of the day we will be able to begin an era of transparency and accountability, a new era of ethic that will restore the credibility of this house, the people' house. people's house. and with that, i yield back. >> thank you. the gentleman wield yields back, and i would note technically it was 11 of 13 because we ruled 5

into 4. i would just like to note the next procedures. we will be meeting briefly just to approve the brief report that goes to the full committee. after we recess from this session, i will be contacting the ranking member of the full committee so that we can schedule the sanction hearing that is the next step in this process under our rules, and we will certainly give notice of that. >> madam chair, may i make just one clarification? this we did achieve consensus. >> we did achieve con consensus, you are correct. with that, we will recess to the closed session this afternoon to briefly go through the language and thanks to all of you. jenna: all right, that's the latest from d.c. we're just learning now that congressman charlie rangel who was part of this hearing, 13

different charges, ethics violations that he has been convicted of those ethic violations by this committee. as you just heard from the committee that they will be going to recess, and we have yet to hear what will happen next. there's a few different steps that can be taken as to what, what cause will come from this conviction of these ethic violations, whether it's going to be a reprimand or something else. so we're going to continue to follow this story closely. obviously, this has been something we've been watching closely, he's been one of the members -- i'm sorry, there's a lot going on here on set. we're hearing steve centanni's here for us in d.c. what i was going to say, steve, this is a congressman that's been in office for decades, and he's someone that for two years has denied these charges. and now we're hearing that lee convicted of these ethics -- he's convicted of these ethics violation. what happens next? >> >> reporter: on at least some of the ethics violations, and if there was a conviction on even

one of these 13 counts, that would have meant the full ethic committee would have to weigh in and decide what to do. they will now have to deliberate on what the punishment might be, if any. so you heard zoe lofgren, the chairwoman of this panel, four republicans, four democrats, a special panel who are convened to hear these charges against charlie rangel, they've now made their decision. now that they have found that he's guilty of at least one, and it looks like 13 of them -- 11 of them, he's going to go before the full panel, the full ethic committee, and they're going to determine what to do next. now, they could simply write a report and say this was unacceptable, and we, we admonish the member and that's the end of it. or it could be something more serious that has to go to the full house floor and then be voted on there. so we're still gathering information on this. t just broken up. we're trying to determine exactly what happens next, and we'll get back to you as soon as we know. you heard her mention a sanction hearing, i believe that will be with the full ethics committee

to decide what to do now that they've found him guilty on some of the charges. jenna: steve centanni, developing story. in the meantime, we have some other breaking news on the other side of the pond to get to. jon: these are the first pictures of william and kate. let's listen in. >> i'm very glad that i have -- [inaudible] >> did you always know that he was going to propose to you? this. >> no. no, i didn't. we have been going out a long time, and, you know, we had spoken about our future, and, no, just the nuptial were not discussed. >> thank you. the telegraph? jon: prince william and his new fiancee, kate middleton, at their first appearance since he popped the question. she said yes. there will be a royal wedding sometime next year.

jenna: now back to d.c., we're going to kind of flip over here for a few different satellite shots of you. charlie rangel just learning of the ethics violation. let's see if there's any sound with this. jon: live pictures in one of the corridors. let's listen in. >> [inaudible] jon: the door closes and, well, some say the career of charlie rangel may be closing as well. convicted on 11 of the 13 ethics charges against him. the long-serving new york congressman who represents a district in harlem, 80 years old now, charged with among other things sending out a solicitation letter on his

office stationary for a charles rangel center at a local college, also failing to declare income from a beach villa that he owns in the dominican republic. this is a man who as chairman of the ways and mean committee help write the tax law and, apparently, he did not pay taxes on some of his income. once again, found guilty by a house committee on 11 of the 13 charges against him. we'll continue to watch charlie rangel and his reaction. jenna: yeah. the hearing on his punishment will come up in the next several weeks. now we're going to take you back to london and the new royal couple. let's go ahead and listen in to their first comments as an engaged couple. [inaudible conversations] >> katherine -- [inaudible] >> this way. >> thank you very much.

>> thank you very much, indeed. thank you. jenna: there they go, both 28 years old. they've been dating for about eight years now. they were in college together and that's where they met at st. andrews university, and now they are engaged after many years of questions, as is probably normal for most couples, right? jon: if she had any doubt that the world's eyes are going to be focused on her as, you know, the princess -- jenna: i don't think she has any doubt after she's been followed by paparazzi the last couple years. jon: look at the flash bulb, you know, just a nonstop barrage of press aattention there in that announcement. jenna: so supposedly, according to the story, they were engaged in this a recent trip to africa, and now this is the official announcement. as you can see on your screen, the palace did say that they expect the wedding sometime in the summer or the spring, but

now, of course, the next questions starting right? we didn't see her ring, did we? we heard that potentially it was the engagement ring or there were reports and i just want to see if we can actually see it that it was princess diana's wedding ring. jon: we understand that the seat of the queen is confirming that, in fact -- jenna: oh, you can see it. did you see it on her finger? jon: right. he has offered the ring that prince charles gave to princess diana. i was reading a bit of history, charles did not offer it to diana when he actually asked her to marry him -- jenna: what? jon: he wanted her to be sure that she was ready for, you know, a royal lifestyle before she said yes. but she said yes almost right away at which point a number of royal jewelers were only too happy to present to diana some options. this is the one that she chose, and now there it is. jenna: beautiful. jon: that blue stone, that is the ring that prince william has offered to kate middleton.

jenna: wow. jon: looks a little bit like your ring. [laughter] jenna: well, that ring fit for the new princess, kate middleton, and her story's really interesting. that's where some of the speculation came up about would they actually tie the knot. she's from, quote-unquote, a common family. her father -- jon, you might be suited to know that he was also a pilot. her mother was a flight attendant. and after they retired they were able to start this business, it's like a mail-order company for party supply for kids, and they became millionaires from that. they're a very successful family, they just don't have the royal lineage often brought into the royal family, so there were so many questions about whether or not prince william would actually pop the question to someone from a different background. jon: well, we certainly wish them well. it has been, what, seven years that they have known each other, so she has been sort of eased in to this royal lifestyle that, as

paul burrell was saying -- jenna: i think you need all those years. jon: i'm sure you do. diana was thrust into it rather rapidly, and as popular as diana was, she wasn't, perhaps, ready for the spotlight. again, when you look at those flashes going off, it looks like a disco -- [laughter] ty coa strobe or something. she seemed to handle it well. -and-a-half-and-a-half and that's what paul was just telling us, that she's within able to handle the -- been able to handle the situation with a great deal of class and elegance, and that's what you need in that type of scenario where you're suddenly thrust on the world's stage, and the whole entire family -- not only your family, his family, but the family as in the world citizens are going to be watching. jon: i know you wanted to hear a little bit more about the ring? jenna: right. jon: we have it from that announcement. >> as you may recognize, t my mother's engagement ring so, of course, it's very special to me. the two put together. but the my way of making sure

that my mother didn't miss out on today and the excitement in the fact that we're going to spend the rest of our lives together. jenna: what a sweet comment. just doesn't want to let his mother miss out -- jon: wow. jenna: paul burrelr is back with us, he, of course, has known prince william since he was a little boy. paul, your first reactions after watching such a touching moment. >> i'm, i'm very moved, actually, because it is a symbol. the ring is a symbol of diana, and she's there, and she's going to be there for a very long time. it just proves to me how much william loved his mother, to give this symbol which is his mother to the woman he loves. it's very moving. jenna: paul, any sort of advice you'd give both the couple together, but also kate middleton specifically on the road ahead? >> difficult for kate, and i would say to her get to know the

people around you. there are a lot of people to get to know inside buckingham palace. choose your friends wisely and make friends with the people down stair. because, you know, they're the people that make the whole machine run. they're the people that keep the palace afloat. so make, as her mother-in-law did, she made friends with people downstairs. they can be your closest allies. jon: that ring, i understand -- again, i'm reading a bit of history on diana's ring which is now kate's ring -- it was an 18-carat sapphire surrounded by diamonds. 28,000 british pounds it cost in 1981. >> >> yeah. jon: u.s. value about $65,000. again, those are 1981 dollars, and i remember that ring was available in a catalog, right? >> that's right. yes, the. and i'm sure it'll be available again. [laughter] jon: yeah. there were all kinds of

knockoffs, you know, even little girls could buy cheap imitations of it, glass kinds of imitations. >> yes. jon: yes, it's going to be popular all over again. >> and do you know what we're seeing? we're seeing a whole generation of younger people now being introduced to this ring as being diana's ring. it's going to have a totally new meaning because it's kate's ring. and i remember that ring very well. it's a burmese sapphire. the princess wore it on all of her public engagements. she was very fond of it, and i remember william saying to me that that's what he remembers from his mother when he was very small. he always remembered her ring. jenna: well, now once again t in the -- it's in the spotlight, and we thank paul burrell for those touching stories and information about this breaking news we have this morning, the newly-engaged royal couple. jon: we wish them many years of happiness, that's for sure.

from california, now, some new information in a major ruling in favor of illegal aliens as hispanic lawmakers get ready to meet with president obama in the oval office. they're pushing for passage of the dream act, a limited amnesty program, during the lame duck session of congress. meanwhile, california supreme court says it's okay to give a tiew wig break to illegal immigrants attending public colleges and universities while denying the reduced rate to u.s. citizens from outside the state. william la jeunesse reporting live in los angeles. william? >> reporter: i think we're doing the tease. the ruling would be appealed to the u.s. supreme court because it's not just about california, but nine other state including new york and texas offer the same price break or discount to illegal immigrants. we're talking about $500 million nationally, nationwide or 10-$20,000 a year per student depending on the state. let me give you a little timeline here. about ten years ago california

passed this law giving this discount to illegal immigrants, treating them as in-state students, not foreign student. a few years later some out-of-state u.s. citizens attending school here filed a lawsuit claiming the subsidy was illegal because it conflicted with a federal immigration law that stipulated that any state that gave this break to illegals had to offer the same discount to out-of-state student. here's their attorney. >> they cannot understand how an illegal alien who lives in california can go to the uc system for $8,000 a year whereas a low-income minority student from nevada or utah who goes, who's an american citizen and who goes to uc system pays $35,000, four time more. >> reporter: jon, the irony here is once again the federal immigration, supremacy law is at

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these guys got out after -- of a detention center in missouri, and they with respect detected for four -- weren't detected for four hours. they scaled a 30-foot wall and then somehow commandeered a truck, either it was waiting for them or commandeered it and made it all the way to interstate 70. now -- it didn't start out this way, but now u.s. marshalses say they're looking for these inmates in the st. louis metro metropolitan area. jon, you just talked about that one guy who was wanted in ekg with that huge armed car robbery, but let me start with corey durant ross, but then here's the guy who's becoming infamous, 36-year-old john wesley jones is wanted in conjunction, and i think we have some scene video from an august 2nd armored car robbery. it was an atm solutions company, $4 million. he was one of the guys, according to police, that commandeered the people in that

truck, put duct tape around them and took that money. they want to find these two guys, and they're looking all over the state, but they're concentrating right now on the st. louis metropolitan area. you saw their pictures up there. as we get more information on this, of course, we'll bring it to you. jon: and they're not saying how they got out. >> reporter: well, they went through the roof and down a wall, and they got a four-hour head start. they're tight-lipped about how they got out, but they're working behind the 8-ball because they're chasing after these guys. jon: four-hour head start is a pretty big deal. >> reporter: that's a lot of time, especially if you've got a vehicle. that vehicle, according to police, was already ditched and they've moved on from that. jon: harris faulkner, thanks. >> reporter: sure. jenna: brand new information on the worldwide debt crisis, and it's playing out in our markets today. our dow has been down more than 200 points, dipping below the 11,000 level. right now lawmakers in d.c. are getting a new report on just how severe the foreclosure mess really is and how it might be

affecting our financial stability here at home. in the meantime, overseas the talk is of more countries in europe on the verge of collapse and potentially more bailouts to come. it's spooking the market. let's talk more about this, stephen moore is a senior economic writer for for "the wal street journal", and that concern about the debt crisis in greece really rocked the markets over the summer, and some said really set i back in our recovery. should we prepare for a second round that? >> well, first of all, jenna, the silent alarms should be going off in washington when we watch what's happening in country like ireland and portugal and, of course, what happened in greece this summer. you're exactly right, you know, we thought for a while there back in late summer that the contamination had been contained and the debt crisis would not lead to a run sovereign debt. and now we're finding in ireland exactly the opposite is happening and, you know, other dominoeses could fall. now, here's the scary part of this story, jenna, if you look at these country like greece and ireland, they're headed to 100%

of gdp in terms of debt. and guess where the united states is headed right now? we're at about 70% right now, but that is headed over the next ten year to 100% rg right where greece, ireland and portugal are right now. jenna: we heard this term credit contagion about three year ago, that have the hot term because it talked about the spreading of the credit crisis in that it seemed that it could not be contained. is there a way we can contain it here so that we don't have the same fate where we're looking at another major bailout? this. >> well, of course there is, jenna, and the way to do that is the candidates around the country said this fall, stop the spending. we can't afford to borrow 40 credibility for every dollar that we spend. we've seen about a $2 trillion increase in spending over the last two or three years. that can't continue. i would tip my hat to the president' deficit reduction commission. i think it's a good start to say, look, we've got to deal

with these long-term problem like medicare, like medicaid, like social security and all the other programs whose budgets are out of control. the other thing we've got to do, jenna, is we've got to grow this economy faster, put more american back to work so you get more tax revenues and the percentage of debt to the gdp falls because the gdp is growing. that's not happening right now. jenna: stephen, it's a really big story and one we're going to continue to watch. we appreciate your perspective. thank you very much. >> thanks, jenna. take care. jon: republicans are lining up behind the tea party move to ban earmark spending for special projects, so where should your money be doing? going? plus, a bombshell discovery in aaruba, does it finally solve the mystery of what happened to natalee holloway?

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jenna: we have some brand new information in the nation's first civilian trial of a gitmo detainee. the jury today back at work after the judge rejected a motion for a mistrial. that was the big news yesterday. david lee miller's reporting live outside federal court in lower manhattan. he just left the courthouse. so, david lee, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, jenna, this jury is doing what juries are supposed to do, it is deliberating. that in and of itself is very significant, considering the fact that 24 hours ago one of the jurors gave the judge a note that said she want to be taken off the case because she has reached her conclusion and that other jurors, she said, were attacking her. she said she wanted to be replaced by an alternate. the judge said, no way. the defense asked for a mistrial, that was denied and now, jenna -- and this is really worth noting -- eight and a half hour have passed since that note was sent from the jurors to the judge. eight and a half hour of

deliberations have passed, and the jury seem to be at it. they have not sent out any further notes. they've requested no further testimony. so they seem to be at least hard at work, but they are, of course, behind closed doors. it's hard to tell what's really taking place. jenna. jenna: lots of concerns about this trial because it really serves as an example, as we said, for potentially other gitmo detainee brought to civilian court. looking ahead, is there any sort of sense of whether or not a mistrial is more likely to happen as we move forward with more deliberations? >> reporter: you know, yesterday there was a great deal of talk here about the possibility of a mistrial. but i did a little research, and in 2001 four other defendants were tried and convicted in connection with the embassy bombings in tanzania and kenya. they were tried here at the courthouse behind me in lower manhattan. interestingly, jenna, the jury in the case of the four other defendants facing almost identical charges, it took the

jury 12 days to decide. so if we're going to use that as a yardstick, we're not that far along, and the deliberations might take place for easily another week if not longer. jenna? jenna: david lee miller on a developing story today. thank you so much. jon: going to take you to texas, george w. bush ground breaking for the construction of his presidential library at smu. let's listen in. [applause] >> i want to thank all of the people from our administration who have joined us today, and i thank you for your noble service to our country. [applause] and i appreciate the 160,000 donors whose generosity ha insured -- has insured that this building was fully paid for before we broke ground. [applause]

and i thank all the people joining us by webcast. it is hard to believe that there's this much excitement about shoveling dirt. [laughter] today' groundbreaking marks the beginning of a journey. we take the first step toward construction of this presidential center which will be a dynamic hub of ideas and actions based upon timeless principles. truth of the matter is this moment is a continuation of a journey that began many years ago. just over a decade ago the american people went to the polls to choose their president in the 2000 election. just under a decade ago that we figured out the results. [laughter] all of us in this tent believe i'm the only president to have won the same election five times. [laughter] [applause]

back then none of us could have predicted what would lie ahead for our country. we witnessed our nation attacked and our country united in resolve. we felt the grief of war and the joy of liberation. we remember vividly young girls going to school in afghanistan and voter waving purple fingers in the air. we saw that with clear purpose and accountable action we can help aid patient to live, struggling societies to develop and storm victim to rebuild. through the triumphs and the sorrows, the good day and the bad -- days and the bad, the decisions we made together were guided by certain principles.

we believe that freedom is universal and the hope of every soul and the ultimate path to peace. we believe that free markets are the best way to empower individuals at home and to lift people abroad out of poverty. we believe you can spend your money better than the united states government can spend your money. [applause] we believe that america's interest and conscious demand engagement in the world because what happens elsewhere inevitably effect i here. us here. we believe the call to serve and the admonition to whom much is given, much is required. and i believe that the ultimate responsibility of a leader is to not do what is easy or popular, but to do what is necessary and right. [applause]

the decisions of governing are on another president' desk, and he deserves to make them without criticism from me. [applause] staying out of the current affairs in politics does not mean staying out of policy. i solemnly believe that the principles that guided our service in public office are the right principle to lead our country into the future. these principles don't belong to any president or any political party. they are fundamental american ideals that arise from our founding and have inspired millions around the world. all three elements of the presidential center will play a role in advancing those principles. the archive will preserve the

record of our administration's efforts to apply these principles during a period of historic consequence. the museum will bring those efforts to life for generation of visitor. the institute will apply these principle to the problem of our time -- problems of our time, demonstrating with measurable results how they can transform and improve the lives of people at home and around the world. last november i presented an outline for the institute, and i am pleased to report that we've had a productive inaugural year. we have recruited a team of world class scholars and fellows. we've developed ambitious plan for our area of focus; education reform, global health, economic growth and human freedom. for example, we launched an innovative new effort called the

reliance to reform egg leadership -- education leadership with focuses on improving the quality of school principal and administrators. we've begun a study of new ways to integrate maternal health services on the continent of africa. we've started compiling a repository of documents and interviews from freedom advocates around the world which will spotlight the triumph of dissidents, and we hope inspire others to join their cause. one of the most exciting parts of the presidential center is the institute's women's initiative. laura and i believe that women are often society's most effective agents of change x one of the institute's -- and one of the institute's core mission will be to support the efforts of women to lead the freedom movement in the middle east and in other parts of the world. we are fortunate to have laura

overseeing this initiative, and i have been a lucky man to have her by my side for 33 years. [applause] it is now my privilege to bring to the podium a fabulous woman and a great first lady, laura bush. [applause] >> thank you, all. thank you so much and thank you, george. [applause] thanks, everybody. thank you all. jon: groundbreaking ceremonies o. george w. bush presidential library to be built on the campuses of smu there in dallas, a 23-acre complex that will feature items, memorabilia and papers, obviously, from the

eight years in which george w. bush was president of the united states. jenna: moving on to some other news, a wet and gloomy day along heaven much of the east coast, and it's not just rain. we have some serious thunderstorms brewing, and we were just talking about snow yesterday, j.d.. janice dean back with us from the fox weather center. what's going on? this. >> reporter: a good day for a nap, right, jenna lee? jenna: absolutely. >> reporter: and a good day for those fancy boots. jenna: i followed your advice. >> reporter: this is very, very important, fashion and then weather and let's get to that because here in the northeast, jenna, we've got flight delayses. so folks headed towards the airports, we've got flight delays for laguardia, newark and philadelphia, over two-hour delays for you, so it's going to be a tough ride out to the airport, a tough flight as well across the country because sometimes it's like a domino effect once you get flight delays across the northeast.

so this is a system we are watching. the potential for severe weather today, so if you're planning that, make sure you know whether radios are on. watching this line of potential severe weather. we did have an earlier tornado watch for parts of florida up towards georgia, that has expired, but we still have the potential across the southeast and towards the mid atlantic where we're watching the potential for hail and damaging winds. also portions of kentucky and tennessee where we've got some heavier rain. the severe threat today, again, exist for the mid atlantic and across portions of the southeast including georgia and florida. and that, jenna, we were talking about snow, of course, yesterday. we had a major 34-car pile-up across i-25, so folk really need to take care. we still have winter weather advisories across the rockies that we'll keep an eye out for, so it is getting into that busy weather center. i'm glad your prepared fashion

wise. jenna: everyone be careful out there. j.d., thank you so much. >> reporter: okay, jenna. jon: right now a bond hearing set to begin soon for the suspect in this case of a missing ohio family. the search for two women and a 10-year-old boy is now nearing the end of it first full week. police rescuing the boy's 13-year-old sister on sunday. she was found bound and gagged in the basement of the man's home, matthew hoffman is his name. investigators say while they want to remain hopeful the others will be found alive, the evidence at this point point to a more gruesome ending. >> just have to be realistic that there is a possibility that these folk are dead. jon: let's bring in forensic pathologist and fox news contributor dr. michael badden. dr. badden, we know they found an awful lot of blood in the mother's home. >> right. jon: just on the basis of the amount of blood found, can they tell whether this is a murder case? >> well, it's an ominous sign,

especially since it isn't the living daughter's blood, sarah's blood. it's not, so it's coming from one of the three victims, and it sounds like at least there was a struggle. it might indicate more than one individual involved in abducting these people. it's hard for one person to take care of four people. and the fact that the other three people haven't been heard from is also very ominous. sarah, the survivor, has probably given over a lot of information to the police. that's one of the reasons they're looking at the lake. they're probably also looking on the ground to see if there's any disturbance of the grass or the ground to indicate a burial site. jon, you know, and initially they thought, a police officer thought he found some bloody clothing, that turned out not to be the case. but what will they be able to tell, i mean, what evidence will they be able to pull out of the house that might lead them in one direction or another? >> well, if these are strangers and not somebody involved, they'll be looking for from time to times, for hairs, maybe some

of that blood is from one of the perpetrator if he has cut himself. but the fellow they arrested, they didn't mention any cuts on him. so they're probably from the abducted people, and that's very ominous. it doesn't mean enough to cause death, but enough to cause injuries that he want to get rid of them. jon: want to talk with you, also, about some possible new developments in the natalee holloway case. forensics experts in holland are testing a piece of bone found in aruba where the alabama teenager disappeared back 2005. you probably remember dutch native joran van der sloot remains the sole suspect in that case. now, the fact that they have sent this piece of bone which we believe to be a jawbone -- >> right. jon: they sent it to holland for testing. if they looked at it and said, oh, this is a donkey, you know, or something else, you've got to believe that this is probably a human bone, right? >> that's what it would appear

to be because animal bone should be easily distinguished from a human jawbone by any kind of physician or forensic scientist on the island of aruba. so presumably the jawbone's been sent, but a proper anthropologist can tell not only that it's human, but also the race, the sex and the age from the jawbone and the teeth. jon: and you, obviously, have dna evidence as well. >> yeah. they'll be looking for dna in the bone and if there are any teeth in the jaw, which we don't know, the root canal contain, preserve dna even better than bone, and they also -- there's a new technique that just came in the past year or so where the toxicologist can find drugs in the root canal material which would -- jon: even after five yearses? this. >> well, five years in the ground. not five years in the water probably, but if this is from the ground, buried in the ground, it's possible.

and that -- because there is an issue of a date rape drug, and so forensic scientists in holland are going to be looking at it, and if we knew how many people were missing on aruba, you know, if there are 50 people missing versus just three or four including natalee, we get a better idea of the odds of this being her. jon: but this could certainly -- well, it could be. >> it's a long shot, but i think it absolutely ha to be looked into it, and if it isn't her, it's somebody else, and they have to identify that person. jon: and the dna will answer a lot of those questions? >> yes. jon: always good to talk with you. jenna: a man with eyes in the back of of his head, really for real. he's surgically implanting a camera in the back of his head to take pictures, one a minute for a year. is it an art product or a violation of privacy? that's our story just ahead. ♪

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>> coming up on "america live," why in the world would u.s. government and military web sites be routed through a serve everybody -- server in china? it is a rare equation, so how is it going to be solved? this and an american hero. he is humble, he is brave. he's going to be awarded the medal of honor told, we will take you live to the white house when it happens. you don't want to miss it. see you at the top of the hour. jon: a fox news alert, break news on the outbreak of cholera in haiti. a u.n. spokeswoman just calling it a nationwide outbreak. the death toll now at more than 1,000 people. harris is watching it from breaking news desk. >> reporter: yeah, jon. what's happened here according to health official on the ground in haiti is once it moved into the city area, the urban areas, the capital there on the island, it just ran rampant. you know, we had people in a 1.3

million people in camp outside the city of port-au-prince, but now that it's broken that urban barrier, it's spreading much faster. cholera now estimated deaths, 1,034 and within just a couple of days hundreds and hundreds of people had already been hospitalized with cholera. hitting that 1,000 mark and above now with the deaths with this bacteria is huge. and can all of this in the aftermath of the 7.0 magnitude earthquake that hit, it's been 33 months -- 11 months ago now. just wanted to get that word out that we have now surpassed that 1,000 death mark. health officials really fighting hard now to get a handle on this outbreak. jon: such a nightmare. harris faulkner, thanks. >> reporter: it is. jenna: well, it's a new frontier big brother wise. a professor at new york university, an art professor, plans to surgically implant a camera in the back of his head. that's not the controversy though. this camera will take poe --

photos wherever he is and send those pictures back to a museum in the middle east, so it's raising some kind -- as you can imagine -- of privacy concerns. is this art or a violation of your rights, especially if you're walking behind this guy? defense attorney joey jackson is a former prosecutor and tred tice is a former federal president. joey, starting with you, they say this is art. it's just art, what's the big deal? >> this is not art, jenna. this is big brother in its worst form. he's implanting the camera, right? in his head and then what he's going to do is he's going to go out, he's a professor at nyu, and he's going to take photographs. now, listen, it turns on whether or not there's a reasonable expectation of privacy, jenna, and i submit that there 100% is an expectation of privacy, particularly in a classroom setting and environment. at nyu, they are really, they're not knowing at this point what

to do with it. they're establishing regulation, when he can take photo on campus, when he can't. a classroom is a sanctuary and certainly there, jenna, he shouldn't be permitted to do it. this is outrageous. jenna: fred, there's cameras all over the streets. when jon scott walk outside, there's paparazzi taking shot of him. is this any different? >> no, it's no different at all. big brother? i bet the guys at nyu would be surprised to learn they're now the government. they're not the government, and joey's right on the law. it's a question about what's a reasonable expectation of privacy, okay? this i grew up in a generation where my mother used to hit me for stuff she never could have seen unless she had eyes in the back of her head, okay? anybody who walk into a 7-eleven or a dunkin doughnuts knows they're on camera, and i've got more news for you. if you don't like it and you think it's an issue, if you're meeting with your professor one-on-one, then tell the guy to put on a hat.

[laughter] i mean, this is just kind of getting to be ridiculous. the fact of the matter is i don't like this guy, i don't want like his art, but as a former fellow prosecutor and as a lawyer, i've got to defend it the way i see it, and i don't think it's a violation of privacy unless, of course, he's wearing a hat and it's one of those x-ray cameras like they have at the airport. jenna: joey, there's been a couple different debates about what he would do in the class room. some have suggested he's going to cover the camera in the classroom but when he's out on the street, it's not going to have the same cover so if you're in this a bathroom or restaurant or something like that, you could have that photo taken of you, and that would be transmitted to the museum of modern art, so does that make a difference? >> yeah that, it -- jenna, it absolutely does. if he's at yankee stadium or some other sporting event, i believe people there know it's being nationally broadcast, that's different. but now if you're talking about, a, in a classroom or, b, places

in public where you might have a privacy expectation, certainly if you're working out, if you're in a men's locker room, a bathroom, this has to be regulated, and, fred, you should be hit upside the head again by your mom for supporting this. jenna: fred? >> let me tell you, joey, i'm not crazy about this, but i agree with you. i have a reasonable expectation in the gym locker room. nobody, trust me, wants to sew that, okay? -- see that, okay? [laughter] but in a restaurant, when i'm walk down the street, you yourself admit that at a yankees game people expect to be on tv like last night on monday night football, everybody expected to be on tv. >> it depends. >> ultimately -- but it doesn't. no, actually it really does depend, you're right, on where he's doing it, okay? so if he is going into a locker room or if he's going in where people have a reasonable expectation to privacy, i agree with you that that's a violation. where i disagree with you is that doesn't really turn on

where he's broadcasting. i don't care if he's broadcasting to the moon. jenna: maybe if he's wearing a hat that says, warning, you may -- >> smile, you're on candid camera. [laughter] jenna: i don't know. there might be a reason why we don't have eyes in the back of our head, but this is the art work -- jon: i vote we smack the professor upside the head, maybe the camera falls out and then the issue is over. jenna: jon has a little judgment call at the end. fred, joey, thank you very much. we'll see if art project goes through. art, jon. it's art. jon: hey, how does this sound? a one-way ticket to mars. up next, the new push for a mission that would send astronaut to colonize the red planet but not come back. why? mish cho kaku here to explain. ♪ one-way ticket, one-way ticket, one-way ticket ♪

jenna: a quick look at wall street right now, the dow is below 11,000, first time in a month it's been there, and the markets are down about 200 points. a couple things coming into play here, you have some concerns that a country like ireland might be turning to the e.u. for a bailout. many thought ireland was going on to be okay, but there's also concern about inflation overseas, specifically in china. and the real concern there is that if china has to raise rates to slow down their economy, that could effect the rest of the world because china's really been leading everybody out of this financial crisis. so a lot of things spooking the market, at 13,000 right now -- 11,000 right now, more as we get it. jon: when president obama pulled the plug on a manned mission to the moon, he called for a plan to visit mars sometime in the distant future, but some folks say let's not wait, they are

calling for a one-way mission that would leave the astronauts on mar sort of to fend for themselves. what is this all about? mish show kaku is host of the science channel series, sci-fi science. you say this is not entirely a proposal for sort of a suicide trip to mars. >> it's not as hare-brained as you think. think of the early pioneers. they came to america, these shores, knowing it was a one-way ticket to the colonies, they would never go back to europe. and the same thing here, we could cut a lot of costs. it doesn't cost much to go to mars, it costs a lot to come back. jon: you know, when president kennedy suggested the moon mission that seemed a little bit farfetched at the time, a big part of his proposal was and bring them safely home. >> that's right. that's why this proposal is really a cry for help, astronomer want to explore the universe, but there's no money. the moon program has been canceled, the space shuttle has

been canceled, we're spinning wheels with the space station, so it's a cry for help to cut costs because they want to explore outer space. jon: so your idea is send them to mars and make them get their own rocket fuel home? >> yeah. take the ice, plenty of ice, separate out the water and hydrogen and make rocket fuel for the return voyage. that way you don't turn mars into a graveyard for aging astronauts. jon: if it were that easy to be making fuel out of water, we'd be doing that on earth right now, wouldn't we? >> it's not economical, but what's the alternative? to die on this frozen desert called mars. first of all, i wouldn't want a one-way ticket to mars, but if i did wind up on mars, i'd have an incentive to create my rocket fuel, economical or not. jon: all right. thank you. jenna: well, there's a very special ceremony at the white house just ahead, the awarding of the medal of honor to the

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free information kit and medicare guide. >> time to shovel dirt. hold it up, look at the camera -- [cheers and applause] turn it! [laughter] jon: these picture just in to the fox newsroom just about two minutes ago. former president george w. bush flanked by condoleezza rice there, the former secretary of state and former national security adviser. and then to his left, his wife, laura bush breaking ground there for his presidential library. it'll be built on the campus of smu in dallas, texas, where the president and his wife now live. it is expected to be opened by 2013, and you might have heard the president had a little bit of a joke there about shovel-ready projects. his library to be built there. jenna: well, that's